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    blockquote cite=”Laura Newman”>given that the majority of the audience was highly technical, the general lack of familiarity with spreadsheets was a surprise. One participant told me that he would find it easier to write some code to perform basic data analysis than to use a simple spreadsheet. This was definitely a learning point for us, and throughout our travels, many people reiterated that there was a clear need for better training in basic spreadsheet skills.

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    I dunno about India, but this result (lack of spreadsheet chops among coders) doesn’t surprise me. I graduated from a large, respectable US CS dept in 2003, just before datamining courses started getting taught, and can say that I never used spreadsheets aside from, say, a physics class. There’s generally not much science taught in “computer science” (another reason to use the alternate terms “informatics” or “software engineering”). What is getting taught, now, involves much larger data sets than can be handled performantly (IIUC) by a local spreadsheet, even on an upmarket workstation. Like anyone else, coders tend to use well the tools they use much, and, for the folks I know [insert caveat on limited, biased sample here], spreadsheets are not among them.

    • A helpful comment Tom, thanks. Which I guess begs the question: are spreadsheet skills still useful for these groups?

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        [open] question: are spreadsheet skills still useful for these groups?

        That’s your call 🙂 If spreadsheets (and their annoyingly constrained macro “languages” and development environments) really are the highest-productivity tools for significant data-wrangling tasks, then, by all means, teach how to use them. But if there are tools that solve the same problems, but better leverage one’s existing code skills (should one have them), I’d consider teaching those to a “technical” audience. That being said, I don’t know what those tools would be (a Sage notebook maybe?) I’m interested in SoD-ing to improve my own inadequate data-wrangling skills, not because I have much to share, other than truisms about one size not fitting all 🙁

      • Thanks Tom – sometimes restating the truisms is really valuable 🙂

        I think there is a significant amount of Data Wrangling work for which spreadsheets are the simplest and most accessible tools for the majority of people to work with. Are they the highest-productivity tools for all people in all situations? Of course not.

        Within the School of Data, we are keen to show that you don’t necessarily need to have coding skills in order to do ‘data wrangling’. Maybe launching workshop one with a group of highly technical folk who DO have great coding skills was a confusing opening gambit – but it did at least show us what people struggle with when learning to use a spreadsheet. For some people, code isn’t an option. And perhaps for most people, even coders, basic spreadsheet skills might well come in handy one day…

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